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what is boehner going to put on the table? what does he want to do? we don't know. we are waiting for him to do some kind of counter, to talk about what their preferences are. we haven't heard anything. >> might going over the cliff give democrats more leverage to get republicans to let the tax rates go up on the wealthy, since all the tax cuts expire at the end of the year? >> well, i mean, some people talk about that, but don't forget that this whole negotiation that took place over raising the debt ceiling caused sequestration, and that would mean tremendous cuts in social programs and defense. in the president's proposal, he's talking about delaying $55 billion in cuts to defense, and about $55 billion in cuts to discretionary programs and offering up $400 billion in cuts to discretionary programs. and i think that should be taken seriously. >> democratic congresswoman maxine waters, always enjoy you, congresswoman. thank you. >> thank you. >>> on their way off the senate floor, two republican senators have put a new immigration reform law on the table this week
what is boehner going to put on the table? what does he want to do? we don't know. we are waiting for him to do some kind of counter, to talk about what their preferences are. we haven't heard anything. >> might going over the cliff give democrats more leverage to get republicans to let the tax rates go up on the wealthy, since all the tax cuts expire at the end of the year? >> well, i mean, some people talk about that, but don't forget that this whole negotiation that took place...
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the chicken question is john boehner having to blink. president was able to get $1.6 trillion because it's coming from the increase on wealthy americans. we don't want 98% of americans tax rates to go up in the name of saving tax rates for the wealthy. so that is going to increase on wealthy americans, 60% of americans overwhelmingly support. the president won this election fair and square. american voters are clear on the mandate and support an increase in tax rates to balance this budget. >> that is not true. for the bush tax cuts to expire and top 2 percent even most generous estimate that is $90 billion more in revenue. not $1.6 trillion more in revenue even over ten years. even if you accept that larger number, the deficit is $1.5 trillion so, even if the republicans raise the you are giving $90 billion. where are you going to get the rest of it? it will have to come from entitlement reform and meaning spending cuts. >> it's coming from loopholes. i think we can. >> he criticized governor romney's plan based on the premise there is
the chicken question is john boehner having to blink. president was able to get $1.6 trillion because it's coming from the increase on wealthy americans. we don't want 98% of americans tax rates to go up in the name of saving tax rates for the wealthy. so that is going to increase on wealthy americans, 60% of americans overwhelmingly support. the president won this election fair and square. american voters are clear on the mandate and support an increase in tax rates to balance this budget....
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the question is, i feel almost sorry for john boehner. there is incredible pressure on him from a base of his party that is unreasonable about this, and he's got to decide, is his speakership more important, or is the country more important? and in some ways, he has got to deal with this base of the republican party who grover norquist represents, and, you know, everybody's elevated grover -- i met him for the first time this morning. nice to meet him. but who is he? why is he this guy that has captured so much attention in this? let's talk about our country and -- >> but, senator, let's also talk about spending. again, you talk about 1993. president clinton cutting upwards of $250 billion from defense. name some specific programs that ought to be cut that would cause pain in terms of the role of our government that democrats are prepared to support. >> well, i think you can see more cuts frankly and a lot of us voted for more cuts in the farm program. $23 billion in savings in the farm bill that's languishing in the house right now. $23
the question is, i feel almost sorry for john boehner. there is incredible pressure on him from a base of his party that is unreasonable about this, and he's got to decide, is his speakership more important, or is the country more important? and in some ways, he has got to deal with this base of the republican party who grover norquist represents, and, you know, everybody's elevated grover -- i met him for the first time this morning. nice to meet him. but who is he? why is he this guy that has...
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end this is a deal that will have to really be agreed to by the republican speaker of the house john boehner and the democratic president in the white house, barack obama. in the end that's where the deal is going to come. we're going to have to get his guys to vote with him, as well as nancy pelosi, who is the democratic leader. kind of pushing from what he wants. there were a lot of republicans who were not 5u8 that pleased with it saying he ought to be back here. there were some democrats that thought she -- right now where are we? we are almost a month after the election, the fiscal cliff we've been talking about since this summer. they put it off until after the election, and we're now a month past it, and we are finding that democrats describe the two sides as very far apardon. >> absolutely. one guy who has been pretty busy is treasury secretary tim geithner. i know you're going to have an interview with him on your show this morning. we look forward to that, candy. nice to see you on this sunday. >>> keep it here for "state of the union." it starts in about eight minutes at 9:00 a.m.
end this is a deal that will have to really be agreed to by the republican speaker of the house john boehner and the democratic president in the white house, barack obama. in the end that's where the deal is going to come. we're going to have to get his guys to vote with him, as well as nancy pelosi, who is the democratic leader. kind of pushing from what he wants. there were a lot of republicans who were not 5u8 that pleased with it saying he ought to be back here. there were some democrats...
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be sure to watch "fox news sunday" tomorrow withest speaker john boehner and treasury secretary tim geithner. >>> coming up, if we go over the fiscal cliff, are your taxes going up? you betcha. the f only question is how much. >>> sometimes cops get a bum rap. one nypd officer's random act of kindness might change the way you look at those guys in whetheblue. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] while you're getting ready for the holidays, we're getting ready for you. tis the season. for food, for family, and now, something extra -- for you. >>> i think we ought to recognize this entire fiscal cliff is an artificial invention of washington created by people in the congress and the presidency and it can be broken down by them into a series of steps that can be taken without having to be rushed into one gigantic last-minute, little understood with no hearings one vote up or down. i think it's a terrible way to govern the united states. >> only one month to go before we dive off the fiscal cliff, but as former speaker gingrich right? is there an, easy solution? let's ask john brahmnick and fox news c
be sure to watch "fox news sunday" tomorrow withest speaker john boehner and treasury secretary tim geithner. >>> coming up, if we go over the fiscal cliff, are your taxes going up? you betcha. the f only question is how much. >>> sometimes cops get a bum rap. one nypd officer's random act of kindness might change the way you look at those guys in whetheblue. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] while you're getting ready for the holidays, we're getting ready for you. tis...
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boehner said there's absolutely a nonstarter. they're in a stalemate and nowhere and i guess the question is, with 30 days left is this a negotiating ploy, an enough opening negotiating position from the president or indicate that they're really far apart and we could go over the cliff. >> we could have really just two weeks before they're done. the recess is december 14th, i'm curious though, you mentioned the substance of it. how bothered is john boehner with the style of it. instead of sitting down face-to-face negotiating, the president is out giving speeches, really campaigning? >> you know, i don't think so. i mean, first of all, both of these guys know when they sat together as they did in the august, 2011 talks it didn't go very well and they're negotiating with the president, negotiating with him through the secretary of the treasury so i don't think that they object to that. i think it's a-- they're serious guys and been through it before. it's a matter of substance not a matter of style. they're waiting to see what is
boehner said there's absolutely a nonstarter. they're in a stalemate and nowhere and i guess the question is, with 30 days left is this a negotiating ploy, an enough opening negotiating position from the president or indicate that they're really far apart and we could go over the cliff. >> we could have really just two weeks before they're done. the recess is december 14th, i'm curious though, you mentioned the substance of it. how bothered is john boehner with the style of it. instead of...